Unbeatable? by Rob Sieradzki

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jjeans's picture

Great article Rob! However you forgot Phillip Miller who not only fought in the UFC, but beat Jake Shields and Brian Foster! But nonetheless great article!

villin's picture

Probably not the same Brian Foster most people think of when they hear the name.

trollking's picture

In all honesty i had never even heard of him, but yes he did retire undefeated after 16 fights. Thanks for the info, i will rename my article, "Will an MMA fighter retire undeafeated after at least 20 fights" ... ;-)

villin's picture

I don't believe it is possible to retire undefeated from an mma career in the conventional sense. Time catches up with all fighters and chances are high that they will pick up a loss sooner or later through one of the reasons you listed. Also, with success comes better and better opponents until you are facing nothing but the cream of the crop on a constant basis.

I have to disagree with you about Jon Jones. Simply put he is still a question mark against certain skill sets and until he proves himself over a longer period of time, I think it is presumptuous to put him on that high of a pedestal. We as fans are guilty of putting the flavor of the month as the new p4p great only to see then stumble under the pressure.

tattflash's picture

Rickson Gracie went unbeaten when he retired, admittedly he never fought top of the tree fighters, but he beat what was put in front of him with considerate ease, and was main event on Pride twice. To me Jon Jones cannot be counted, because regardless what we all think his record shows a loss

tattflash's picture

I should of read that your changing the title to 20 fights undefeated, DOH !